goodbye maxima, hello ridgeline.. am i doing the right thing?
#41
Originally Posted by 9Nails
You might be surprised by this, but Ford makes an Explorer Sport Track with the same body style as the Ridgeline. You should take a test drive so you have a clue next time. As far as it being one of the worst SUV's, that's an opinion, and we all know what a**holes and opinions have in common.
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Oh and Ford Explorer is not a Full sized SUV, again add another dumb note to your list.
#42
Originally Posted by belal242
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Oh and Ford Explorer is not a Full sized SUV, again add another dumb note to your list.
Want to compare dumb notes: I've all ready pointed out that the Ridgeline is not a truck. Yet, you come back suggesting a Titan? Hmm, I hope you're not making decisions that would affect things that are living with that mind of yours. Explorer is a full sized SUV, perhaps you're confusing it with the Large Class SUV's like the Excursion and Suburban. But then again, maybe you're just trying to think of something stupid to say...
You think I'm the one who is not thinking things clearly here, yeah, what ever there TinkerBella...
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#43
Originally Posted by 9Nails
Explorer is a full sized SUV, perhaps you're confusing it with the Large Class SUV's like the Excursion and Suburban. But then again, maybe you're just trying to think of something stupid to say...
well technically, since the explorer is built on the ranger platform its a mid-size suv. full size would be expedition since its built on the f series platform.
#44
Originally Posted by Jeffs04SE
well technically, since the explorer is built on the ranger platform its a mid-size suv. full size would be expedition since its built on the f series platform.
Oh, so close on the chassis! You might be thinking about the old Bronco II's which were very similar to the old Rangers...
The Explorer's are built off their own Chassis, inspired by the F-Series trucks.
http://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/200...xplorer_1.html
#45
Famous Dane Cook Quote, "Are you out of your ****ing mind? You really are out of your ****ing mind." LOLOL nah I just had to say that, do whatever floats your boat, I wouldn't do it but your not me lolol.
#46
Originally Posted by 9Nails
Since you're still not getting it, the original post was asking about a Ridgeline. It's a new SUV that Honda's making for 2006. Honda, SUV? Something doesn't sound right there. What's the name for another Honda SUV that they sell? Experience in the SUV market? Honda = None. You're better buying into a company with a proven record in truck/SUV sales instead of an also-ran wishing they had a piece of that market. Especially on their initial attempt to break into the market. Honda does cars right, but Trucks/SUV's? Umm, nope. Vise versa for Ford cars (Mustang is an exception.)
Want to compare dumb notes: I've all ready pointed out that the Ridgeline is not a truck. Yet, you come back suggesting a Titan? Hmm, I hope you're not making decisions that would affect things that are living with that mind of yours. Explorer is a full sized SUV, perhaps you're confusing it with the Large Class SUV's like the Excursion and Suburban. But then again, maybe you're just trying to think of something stupid to say...
You think I'm the one who is not thinking things clearly here, yeah, what ever there TinkerBella...![Owned](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/owned.gif)
Want to compare dumb notes: I've all ready pointed out that the Ridgeline is not a truck. Yet, you come back suggesting a Titan? Hmm, I hope you're not making decisions that would affect things that are living with that mind of yours. Explorer is a full sized SUV, perhaps you're confusing it with the Large Class SUV's like the Excursion and Suburban. But then again, maybe you're just trying to think of something stupid to say...
You think I'm the one who is not thinking things clearly here, yeah, what ever there TinkerBella...
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#47
Originally Posted by belal242
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#49
Originally Posted by 9Nails
Simply said, the Ford Explorer has been THE BEST SELLING SUV FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS. (Read the truth.) That is no mistake.
Often the most popular products are not the best, the buying public being
what it is (not terribly bright or informed).
#50
Originally Posted by 9Nails
I'm tired of trying to educate you. You never back your flimsy words with facts. You act like a little child on a playground arguing which Yu-Gi-Oh card is the best. All you can do is whine like a little ***** about your opinions. I doubt that you've even driven a Ridgeline, so how can you possible recommend one? Simply said, the Ford Explorer has been THE BEST SELLING SUV FOR THE PAST 14 YEARS. (Read the truth.) That is no mistake.
Again you keep trying to come off by acting like a smart mr know it all but again the FACT that your looking for is Honda Ridgeline is the 2006 North American Truck of the year, and the 2006 Motor Trend Truck of the year. That fact was to dispute your stupid comment on how HONDA is just now making trucks and that they dont know what they are doing and should stick to cars. Next again your saying its the best selling, which does not make it the best. Second its a SUV not a TRUCK.
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#51
Originally Posted by 4drsleeper
I can't believe this thread got started. I've been looking at the Ridgeline for about 2 months now. I really didn't like the look at first either but it's gone on me alot. My wife bought a Pilot about 1 year ago and I love driving it. Honda really did a great job with ride quality on their trucks.
Anyway, I'm jealous because I really want a Ridgeline but I only owe $9000 on my '04 Max and I'd rather not assume the additional debt right now because I'm trying to build a bigger house.
Good luck and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. The truck really is a complete package.
Anyway, I'm jealous because I really want a Ridgeline but I only owe $9000 on my '04 Max and I'd rather not assume the additional debt right now because I'm trying to build a bigger house.
Good luck and I'm sure you'll enjoy it. The truck really is a complete package.
thanx.. i still have 3 years of payment left, so why not. too bad resale value for the max is ****. i test drove the ridgeline today and damn it's solid. i can't wait to pick one up now..
#52
Originally Posted by george_rem
From sporty sedan to pickup truck...doesnt make sense to me. It
seems that you dont really know what you want.
seems that you dont really know what you want.
why would you say something like that? is there something wrong with driving something thats more suitable for my needs?
#53
Originally Posted by belal242
Again you keep trying to come off by acting like a smart mr know it all but again the FACT that your looking for is Honda Ridgeline is the 2006 North American Truck of the year, and the 2006 Motor Trend Truck of the year. That fact was to dispute your stupid comment on how HONDA is just now making trucks and that they dont know what they are doing and should stick to cars. Next again your saying its the best selling, which does not make it the best. Second its a SUV not a TRUCK.
SO AGAIN stop back padaling and get a grip, you came off rude and insulted me and you continue to do so, but in the end your the dumb *** and im done arguing to a dumb Pluck who thinks he knows what he is talking about.![Crazy](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif)
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You still think I know it all? That's funny. But I must not, since I think you still have hope in recognizing your mistakes. Here's the list of competitors to the Ridgeline: Competitors: Chevrolet Avalanche, Chevrolet Colorado, Dodge Dakota, Ford Explorer Sport Trac, GMC Canyon, Isuzu i350, Mitsubishi Raider, Nissan Frontier, Subaru Baja, Toyota Tacoma
Did you catch who is 4th in that list? Hmmm? Now I didn't make that list up, it came from a professional review that I had read at Autobytel. So now you can claim that they know it all too.
Hey, I'm sorry if you feel insulted. But you started your rhetoric with "What the hell is wrong with you???" I'm simply playing down to your level. If you want to continue to dispatch the pleasantries, that's fine, or we can debate in a civilized manor. You initiated this discussion, so choose carefully on how you want to continue it.
#54
Just to clarify some points of this thread.....
The Ridgeline is a TRUCK. See Honda's Website for clarification.
The Explorer is an SUV, the Sport Trac is the pickup version of it but it is still listed as an SUV by Ford, check Ford.com The Sport-Trac was discountinued as an 06 by Ford b/c it wasn't selling, not b/c the the idea of an SUV/Truck mix wasn't a good one, its just that Ford couldn't pull it off. It is coming back as a 2007 model later this year b/c of other car makers proved that they could make the SUV/Truck idea work.... like Honda. The Explorer, a MID-SIZED SUV, was the best selling SUV b/c they are purchased as fleet vehicles for businesses and rental agencies and these numbers are combined with their regular, private consumer purchases to achieve those numbers. The same for the Ford F150 and Taurus.
Honda doesn't have to buy its awards, they also just won Motor Trend Car of the Year for the Civic. How much did that cost them? So does that mean you shouldn't buy Honda trucks b/c they make good cars or you shouldn't buy Honda cars b/c they make good trucks??? I'm confused.
You can knock Honda for its bland vehicle styling but not for its engineering and craftmanship. Honda started making motorcycles in Japan and they have grown to be one of the top auto manufactures of cars and trucks in the world. I have had 2 Honda Accords (96 and 98) and 1 Acura TL (2002) and they were never in the shop for a repair, only regular service; oil, filters, etc. I also own 1 Honda Lawn mower. (Still runs strong after 5 years.) I guess I shouldn't have purchased that lawn mower since they only make good cars....or was that trucks??
If I were to be in the market for a truck, the Ridgeline and the Frontier would be at the top of my list.
The Explorer is an SUV, the Sport Trac is the pickup version of it but it is still listed as an SUV by Ford, check Ford.com The Sport-Trac was discountinued as an 06 by Ford b/c it wasn't selling, not b/c the the idea of an SUV/Truck mix wasn't a good one, its just that Ford couldn't pull it off. It is coming back as a 2007 model later this year b/c of other car makers proved that they could make the SUV/Truck idea work.... like Honda. The Explorer, a MID-SIZED SUV, was the best selling SUV b/c they are purchased as fleet vehicles for businesses and rental agencies and these numbers are combined with their regular, private consumer purchases to achieve those numbers. The same for the Ford F150 and Taurus.
Honda doesn't have to buy its awards, they also just won Motor Trend Car of the Year for the Civic. How much did that cost them? So does that mean you shouldn't buy Honda trucks b/c they make good cars or you shouldn't buy Honda cars b/c they make good trucks??? I'm confused.
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If I were to be in the market for a truck, the Ridgeline and the Frontier would be at the top of my list.
#55
Originally Posted by george_rem
From sporty sedan to pickup truck...doesnt make sense to me. It
seems that you dont really know what you want.
seems that you dont really know what you want.
things change. what is wanted today is not always needed tomorrow. i traded in my 04 max with 7900 miles on it for my 05 titan. the need arose for a truck and the max just wasent gonna cut it. i dont need to carry around people, i needed to haul and tow stuff, like my boat, ATV's, oh and tools and just getting to the job sites sometimes. i didnt have or did all this stuff when i bought my maxima but like i said things change.
Originally Posted by akaxmrxhammer
why would you say something like that? is there something wrong with driving something thats more suitable for my needs?
nope nothing wrong with that at all. good luck with the ridgeline
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#56
Originally Posted by BadBlackMaxSL
Honda started making motorcycles in Japan and they have grown to be one of the top auto manufactures of cars and trucks in the world. I have had 2 Honda Accords (96 and 98) and 1 Acura TL (2002) and they were never in the shop for a repair, only regular service; oil, filters, etc. I also own 1 Honda Lawn mower. (Still runs strong after 5 years.) I guess I shouldn't have purchased that lawn mower since they only make good cars....or was that trucks??
yup, i have a honda lawn mower too that runs excellent, unlike the craftsman we got a few years ago. also my 1983 CR125 is still one of the best bikes i have ever riden. i have no doubt taht my 2005 trx250 will last just as long as my CR has.
#57
Originally Posted by BadBlackMaxSL
The Ridgeline is a TRUCK. See Honda's Website for clarification.
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If you're gonna get a truck bug, keep looking.... and get one that qualifies as a real truck. Or do what you like... but you did ask.
#58
Originally Posted by desmo_dude
Not by my definition.... a truck is a truck if it has a full-frame, not a unibody. The Ridgeline is a unibody, therefore not a truck. Sorry, but it's a car with a bed, nothing more. A unibody that tries to tow too much or do any kind of decent off-roading will end up with bent frames, twisted body parts. Make sure you wear safety glasses while off-roading, as your windshield is likely to shatter in your face. Your Maxima stands as good a chance as that Ridgeline going off-roading. At least with the Titan, they knew from experience to stick with the tried and true fully boxed steel ladder truck frame - the American way.
That comes from truck experience that Honda ain't got. The idea that the Ridgeline would even be compared with real trucks is just baffling, let alone winning any awards. So that's how I feel about its function... How about its form? Well, the Ridgeline joins the VW Bug as being one of the few cars that looks the same going in reverse as it does going forward. ![GrinNo](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/grin_no.gif)
If you're gonna get a truck bug, keep looking.... and get one that qualifies as a real truck. Or do what you like... but you did ask.
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If you're gonna get a truck bug, keep looking.... and get one that qualifies as a real truck. Or do what you like... but you did ask.
This is their initial released to public. They don't have customer collected data. And money doesn’t grow on trees. I start to get doubts, and I don’t love any car manufacture enough to jump right in with my dollar into their first of a kind vehicle. The awards are nice, but those awards are handed out at a "dog and pony" show by a Magazine that Honda will no doubt pay a handsome reward to in advertising. In my eyes, it’s like a blue ribbon on a cow at a fair. That ribbon doesn’t make the burgers taste any better. If I were to buy another truck today, I would still choose from a proven truck company who has learned through trials how to engineer the vehicle in total.
There’s some propaganda on the subject; some of you should take a look at the videos at this web site. Just keep in mind that I know it is biased.
http://www.thetruthabouttrucks.com/
#59
I am sure that Honda did do some market studies that evaluated the needs and demands of the average "truck" owner. What is the percent of truck owners that actually use their pickup truck for "serious" off roading? .00001%? I don't know but its my guess. Most guys use it to haul stuff from the hardware store or put their bikes, camping gear, etc, in it. Your argument that a truck 'needs' a full frame is the same that Jeep supporters said when Lexus, Mercedes, etc started to make SUV's, that true SUVs were originally meant to be able to go serious off roading (Trail Rated) and Jeep has suffered from that stance as the rest of the market has passed them by. I own an SUV and it went off road once, when my wife drove in the grass as she missed the driveway in the snow. The Ridgeline isn't trying to pretend it is a fullsized pickup, it is trying to blend the car like ride (that everybody seems to want), fuel economy, SUV versatility and the cargo capacity (volume- not in terms of weight) of a pickup. I remember hearing grumblings from American truck manufacturers when Toyota built the Tundra and Nissan was building the Titan that the Japanese companies don't have the experience in building these vehicles so they won't be able to compete in the arena. I think that Toyota and Nissan have proved them wrong.
Back to the original question of trading the Max in for a Ridgeline (or any medium sized truck) I think the answer is yes based upon your needs. I know I can't fit a motorcycle in my Max, even with the seats down!!!!! I think once you make the determination of doing the trade then it becomes a decision on what truck most appeals to your tastes. The Honda will serve the owner faithfully for many years of use.
Back to the original question of trading the Max in for a Ridgeline (or any medium sized truck) I think the answer is yes based upon your needs. I know I can't fit a motorcycle in my Max, even with the seats down!!!!! I think once you make the determination of doing the trade then it becomes a decision on what truck most appeals to your tastes. The Honda will serve the owner faithfully for many years of use.
#61
picked up white ridgeline RTL with navi and couldn't be happier. i'll post pictures soon. i will update the price on the f/s thread
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....81#post4671681
edit: parts price updated
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....81#post4671681
edit: parts price updated
#62
IMHO,
When comparing similar class/model,
Most of Honda/Acura uses better quality interior material than Nissan.
But...
All of Honda/Acura has suck-*** ride quality.... they somehow make their car feel cheaper...
My friend drives an Acura MDX, one day he drove a '01 Highlander and admitted the Highlander is much nicer (even luxrious) in terms of comfort, ride quality, and overall feel. I rode on Honda Pilot one day, and I felt like I was riding an oversized civic with v6 engine in it..... it felt crappy. Honda vehicles lack the comfort... They might feel solid in the beginning... but you'll find them feel rather harsh later on.
I dunno about Ridgeline... but I know that I wouldnt buy a Honda truck/suv... (it reminds me of Honda Passport, a crappy suv... although it's made by Isuzu, Honda still put their name tag on it...)
I'd say, try something else too.
When comparing similar class/model,
Most of Honda/Acura uses better quality interior material than Nissan.
But...
All of Honda/Acura has suck-*** ride quality.... they somehow make their car feel cheaper...
My friend drives an Acura MDX, one day he drove a '01 Highlander and admitted the Highlander is much nicer (even luxrious) in terms of comfort, ride quality, and overall feel. I rode on Honda Pilot one day, and I felt like I was riding an oversized civic with v6 engine in it..... it felt crappy. Honda vehicles lack the comfort... They might feel solid in the beginning... but you'll find them feel rather harsh later on.
I dunno about Ridgeline... but I know that I wouldnt buy a Honda truck/suv... (it reminds me of Honda Passport, a crappy suv... although it's made by Isuzu, Honda still put their name tag on it...)
I'd say, try something else too.
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Originally Posted by akaxmrxhammer
picked up white ridgeline RTL with navi and couldn't be happier. i'll post pictures soon. i will update the price on the f/s thread
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....81#post4671681
edit: parts price updated
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....81#post4671681
edit: parts price updated
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