E-gas TB
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E-gas TB
is there any replacement for the 5.5 gen e-gas throttle body thats better? such as the pathfinder throttle body but with the e-gas instead of cable?
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Read what you posted. You made it sound as if you thought the pathfinder throttle body would be an upgrade. Furthermore, what do you mean by better? Bigger? Either way, the stock throttle body is NOT the bottleneck when it comes to making serious n/a power, at all.
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he said that because you cannot interpret anything. when ppl do the vq35 swap they use a pathfinder tb because it flows like an e-gas tb, but it uses cable...so its an upgrade from the vq35 tb. im saying is there an upgrade for the e-gas tb? i guess you answered my question, even though you didnt want to.
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
he said that because you cannot interpret anything. when ppl do the vq35 swap they use a pathfinder tb because it flows like an e-gas tb, but it uses cable...so its an upgrade from the vq35 tb. im saying is there an upgrade for the e-gas tb? i guess you answered my question, even though you didnt want to.
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you guys are just jealous of the e-gas
and hooper, this is about post # 8
think about what you said
"when ppl do the vq35 swap they use a pathfinder tb because it flows like an e-gas tb, but it uses cable...so its an upgrade from the vq35 tb"
so if the pathfinder tb flows like a e-gas tb, the only difference is that one is cable and the other is electronic
i dont see how a tb that uses cable is a upgrade from the same size tb that uses e-gas
and hooper, this is about post # 8
think about what you said
"when ppl do the vq35 swap they use a pathfinder tb because it flows like an e-gas tb, but it uses cable...so its an upgrade from the vq35 tb"
so if the pathfinder tb flows like a e-gas tb, the only difference is that one is cable and the other is electronic
i dont see how a tb that uses cable is a upgrade from the same size tb that uses e-gas
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I just said that
Not all of us have a spare 2k2maxima to take parts from
Not all of us have a spare 2k2maxima to take parts from
#16
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
you guys are just jealous of the e-gas
i dont see how a tb that uses cable is a upgrade from the same size tb that uses e-gas
i dont see how a tb that uses cable is a upgrade from the same size tb that uses e-gas
At least you know for sure the throttle is open 100% when you step on it. I really didn't notice any lag with the e-gas but I do consider the cable setup an upgrade.
#17
i think u guys are trying to be difficult here. he's just asking if there is a larger e-gas tb that he can swap in. like something 80+mm. simple. no need for all these posts about wat he said when we all kno wat he meant. and i assume he mentioned the pathy tb because us 4th gens us it to replace out cable driven tb with a larger cable driven tb. he wants the similar but just in the e-gay fashion.
i failed to see where he asked for imput on if its worth doing or a good idea.
i failed to see where he asked for imput on if its worth doing or a good idea.
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please stop saying e-gay. it is e-gas and there are both positive and negative side of e-gas but it still better then cable
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haha.....what advantages of egas is there over cable? not tryin to start anything here...just want to hear your side of the story
and for my side of the story.....my e-gas (2k2) is NOT as responsive as my old cable (96 4th gen)....theres just no comparison....when I slightly tap the throttle on a cable driven TB...the revs respond much better than e-gas
and for my side of the story.....my e-gas (2k2) is NOT as responsive as my old cable (96 4th gen)....theres just no comparison....when I slightly tap the throttle on a cable driven TB...the revs respond much better than e-gas
#20
Any throttle body that relies on an electrical signal is not an upgrade from a cable driven throttle body. With an e-TB the throttle opens as much as the ecu lets it. So throttle position becomes a mapped parameter just like ignition timing, and it is the Nissan engineers that determine that, not your foot.
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the only downside i can think of right now is the butterfly not opening 100% when you are WOT. that can be corrected with a ecu upgrade.
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
the only downside i can think of right now is the butterfly not opening 100% when you are WOT. that can be corrected with a ecu upgrade.
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
A better upgrade is a cable driven TB.
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
if that was a better upgrade, manufacturers and not just nissan would still be using cable driven. and what you just posted makes you seem ignorant in your ways of cable and nothign else
The e-gay TB is what manufacturers are being forced to go to in order to meet ever stricter pollution and fuel economy requirements.
And that "ignorant" comment just earned you a little vacation.
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
A better upgrade is a cable driven TB.
egas = new hotness
sometimes some ppl just cant accept progress, they keep fighting for old things and ways ... so why not stay carburated, no abs, drum brakes, have a distributor and sparkplug wires, also whack v-tec, vias, vanos etc... so u get the point. Thus when it's time to move on, MOVE ON!!!
#27
Originally Posted by maxS
cable = old school
egas = new hotness
sometimes some ppl just cant accept progress, they keep fighting for old things and ways ... so why not stay carburated, no abs, drum brakes, have a distributor and sparkplug wires, also whack v-tec, vias, vanos etc... so u get the point. Thus when it's time to move on, MOVE ON!!!
egas = new hotness
sometimes some ppl just cant accept progress, they keep fighting for old things and ways ... so why not stay carburated, no abs, drum brakes, have a distributor and sparkplug wires, also whack v-tec, vias, vanos etc... so u get the point. Thus when it's time to move on, MOVE ON!!!
take a vq30 cable driven TB and slighty tap the gas....
now take a vq35 with the e-gas TB and slightly tap the gas...
which one responds much better?
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Any throttle body that relies on an electrical signal is not an upgrade from a cable driven throttle body. With an e-TB the throttle opens as much as the ecu lets it. So throttle position becomes a mapped parameter just like ignition timing, and it is the Nissan engineers that determine that, not your foot.
#29
It is also possible that it is more economical for manufacturers to go with e-gas. There is no need for separate actuators and cruise control modules. Also, the throttle body can go anywhere in the engine bay without having to consider cable routing.
I have it on my newly transplanted 3.5. It is a novel idea. I would prefer a cable. One less complicated and expensive thing with the possibility to malfunction.
I have it on my newly transplanted 3.5. It is a novel idea. I would prefer a cable. One less complicated and expensive thing with the possibility to malfunction.
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Originally Posted by steven88
yes this is true...and i will agree with you...to a certain point...now answer this
take a vq30 cable driven TB and slighty tap the gas....
now take a vq35 with the e-gas TB and slightly tap the gas...
which one responds much better?
take a vq30 cable driven TB and slighty tap the gas....
now take a vq35 with the e-gas TB and slightly tap the gas...
which one responds much better?
i line up my 4th gen with cbl-driven tb against my wife's vq35 with egas WITH my WIFE as a DRIVER... all i will see is the taillights... every single time.
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Originally Posted by eng92
It is also possible that it is more economical for manufacturers to go with e-gas. There is no need for separate actuators and cruise control modules. Also, the throttle body can go anywhere in the engine bay without having to consider cable routing.
I have it on my newly transplanted 3.5. It is a novel idea. I would prefer a cable. One less complicated and expensive thing with the possibility to malfunction.
I have it on my newly transplanted 3.5. It is a novel idea. I would prefer a cable. One less complicated and expensive thing with the possibility to malfunction.
#32
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
same thing goes here. throw away your ignition and go to a distributor. throw away fuel injection and get a carb.stop being in denial because it is progress no matter what you guys think. and most of the time mechanical parts fail not electrical
Technological advances such as distributorless COP ignition and fuel injection have helped performance and reduced emissions tremendously. In comparison, what has e-gas done for the typical ALL MOTOR junkee ???.
#33
Originally Posted by maxS
ok, this is an easy one:
i line up my 4th gen with cbl-driven tb against my wife's vq35 with egas WITH my WIFE as a DRIVER... all i will see is the taillights... every single time.
i line up my 4th gen with cbl-driven tb against my wife's vq35 with egas WITH my WIFE as a DRIVER... all i will see is the taillights... every single time.
#35
This thread is
You guys are starting to go WAY too broad on the subject, we need to ONLY stick to the egas in the Maxima, not the entire industry. Egas will ALWAYS be slower in the Maxima because the ECU has too much to control and cannot keep up.
You guys are starting to go WAY too broad on the subject, we need to ONLY stick to the egas in the Maxima, not the entire industry. Egas will ALWAYS be slower in the Maxima because the ECU has too much to control and cannot keep up.
#37
Originally Posted by maxS
cable = old school
egas = new hotness
sometimes some ppl just cant accept progress, they keep fighting for old things and ways ... so why not stay carburated, no abs, drum brakes, have a distributor and sparkplug wires, also whack v-tec, vias, vanos etc... so u get the point. Thus when it's time to move on, MOVE ON!!!
egas = new hotness
sometimes some ppl just cant accept progress, they keep fighting for old things and ways ... so why not stay carburated, no abs, drum brakes, have a distributor and sparkplug wires, also whack v-tec, vias, vanos etc... so u get the point. Thus when it's time to move on, MOVE ON!!!
This reminds me of a discussion I had about 15-20 years ago on rec.autos.tech. I was criticizing auto manufacturers for going away from timing chains to timing belts and questioning whether they ought to be used on interference engines. One guy laughed at me for being such a Luddite, saying that timing belts were the future. He pretty much used the same argument as you. And now how many performance engines does Nissan make with timing belts?
#39
Originally Posted by maxS
ok, this is an easy one:
i line up my 4th gen with cbl-driven tb against my wife's vq35 with egas WITH my WIFE as a DRIVER... all i will see is the taillights... every single time.
i line up my 4th gen with cbl-driven tb against my wife's vq35 with egas WITH my WIFE as a DRIVER... all i will see is the taillights... every single time.
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