View Poll Results: Which? Why? Better?
Stinger Expert
5
55.56%
Stinger Dream
1
11.11%
Stinger Bullet
3
33.33%
Stinger Helix
0
0%
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RCA Decisions...VOte
01-09-2006, 05:04 PM
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RCA Decisions...VOte
Recommendations?
Currently running some old purple fosgates, and a crap pair for the sub.
Looking at a sub that will take a much smaller enclosure so i can actually get in and glass the damn trunk some...
im checking out rcas currently and curious which you use..
currently looking at the
Stinger Experts
Stinger Dream
Stinger Bullet
Stinger helix
All claim SUPERIOR NOISE REJECTION, so if no difference whats your vote in looks. Rack will be for a duo of xtants, and minimal rca shown. (604x and a 403a)
Currently running some old purple fosgates, and a crap pair for the sub.
Looking at a sub that will take a much smaller enclosure so i can actually get in and glass the damn trunk some...
im checking out rcas currently and curious which you use..
currently looking at the
Stinger Experts
Stinger Dream
Stinger Bullet
Stinger helix
All claim SUPERIOR NOISE REJECTION, so if no difference whats your vote in looks. Rack will be for a duo of xtants, and minimal rca shown. (604x and a 403a)
01-09-2006, 07:16 PM
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Experts only since they came out. Although my car is also used for demo purposes, and my mentality makes me have the highest line. The dreams are an excellent choice as well. Bullets I can live without and stopped stocking them, Ive had a ton of instances where there was a problem a those were the culprit. The Helix is also now available in a 4 channel as well as the Hypers. Cost considering the Helix and the Hypers are my two most commonly sold.
01-09-2006, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 505max94se
I have experience with the hpm and the expert. The experts are really nice, flexible, and have locking ends. Personally, I like knukonceptz top line home home interconnects.
Try a resitance check between the two.
01-09-2006, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rider69
In my opinion of those, they are all decent so whichever is cheaper. You will not notice a sound difference between them.
01-09-2006, 09:27 PM
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I agree for the most part, although Gold plating to me is crap. Its a marketing gimmic to make items more appealing. Gimme straight plain ole copper anyday. Adding the Gold plating is just adding another coating of potential problems. In ring terminals and such, I Always grind them down prior to installation.
You can run your RCAs and power wire together, it wont cause any problems.
You can run your RCAs and power wire together, it wont cause any problems.
01-09-2006, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Try a resitance check between the two.
The downsides are the following: since they're made for home use, they aren't near as flexible as many other car specific cables, there is one seperate cable per channel (2 for R,L), and each cable is about the same size as 4 awg.
01-09-2006, 11:14 PM
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01-10-2006, 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 505max94se
I bet they'd have less resistance than the experts. :
:Id be willing to accept that bet. Although Im not sure which ones I used to test, Im not all that familiar with them.
01-10-2006, 01:48 AM
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I'll test my 2 meter set of knukonceptz eks interconnects, and to make it fair, you test a 6ft set of stinger expert interconnects. How exactly do you want to test the resitstance (there's a couple of ways to do it)?
01-10-2006, 02:01 AM
#17
My radioshack digital multimeter reads between 0 and 0.1 ohms(it fluctuates back anf forth) when each lead of the multimeter is connected to the center pin and the outer jacket on each end of one rca (one channel). I wish my meter would go lower than 0.1 so I could get a more accurate reading.
01-10-2006, 08:25 AM
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I never bought into the hype about RCA cables. As long as it's not wal mart stuff i really am not picky. I ran esoteric audio in my old car, no problems ever and was happy with the cables. Got mirasonic interconnects for new car. Nothing expensive but quality , cheap, and functional
01-10-2006, 02:16 PM
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I'm not much into the hype of RCA cables either. There's so many things I think are more important in getting good sound before RCA's, specifically speakers, speaker locations, deadening, and processing/tuning. Noise free, solid connections is what I'm after.
Anyway, if you're interested I can check resistance on my Knukonceptz RCA's ( I don't have the home audio line, but the "higher" line of their car audio stuff....got em cause they were reasonably priced and black, matching most of what I have going on in my car).
Don's Fluke is definately the ****. I totally want one now, along with the cool test leads it comes with that I hadn't seen before. I prolly wouldn't bother w/ the fluke (autoranging is nice, but not a necessity) if I could just get those test leads. I really dug those. BUT Don could use some jasper circle jigs. I'll trade ya!
Anyway, if you're interested I can check resistance on my Knukonceptz RCA's ( I don't have the home audio line, but the "higher" line of their car audio stuff....got em cause they were reasonably priced and black, matching most of what I have going on in my car).
Don's Fluke is definately the ****. I totally want one now, along with the cool test leads it comes with that I hadn't seen before. I prolly wouldn't bother w/ the fluke (autoranging is nice, but not a necessity) if I could just get those test leads. I really dug those. BUT Don could use some jasper circle jigs. I'll trade ya!
01-10-2006, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
I'm not much into the hype of RCA cables either. There's so many things I think are more important in getting good sound before RCA's, specifically speakers, speaker locations, deadening, and processing/tuning. Noise free, solid connections is what I'm after.
Anyway, if you're interested I can check resistance on my Knukonceptz RCA's ( I don't have the home audio line, but the "higher" line of their car audio stuff....got em cause they were reasonably priced and black, matching most of what I have going on in my car).
Don's Fluke is definately the ****. I totally want one now, along with the cool test leads it comes with that I hadn't seen before. I prolly wouldn't bother w/ the fluke (autoranging is nice, but not a necessity) if I could just get those test leads. I really dug those. BUT Don could use some jasper circle jigs. I'll trade ya!
Anyway, if you're interested I can check resistance on my Knukonceptz RCA's ( I don't have the home audio line, but the "higher" line of their car audio stuff....got em cause they were reasonably priced and black, matching most of what I have going on in my car).
Don's Fluke is definately the ****. I totally want one now, along with the cool test leads it comes with that I hadn't seen before. I prolly wouldn't bother w/ the fluke (autoranging is nice, but not a necessity) if I could just get those test leads. I really dug those. BUT Don could use some jasper circle jigs. I'll trade ya!
01-10-2006, 02:24 PM
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Yeah I guess i want it to be absolutely mindless. I love my circle cutters. When i got home, I put the holes in the double 3/4" (1.5") mdf in 5 minutes.
I know you're good w/ the flush trim bit, but is it ever not big enough of a cutout for the speaker?
I couldn't imagine trying to, for instance, countersink these ribbons without my circle cutter....
But those test leads...I want em.
I know you're good w/ the flush trim bit, but is it ever not big enough of a cutout for the speaker?
I couldn't imagine trying to, for instance, countersink these ribbons without my circle cutter....
But those test leads...I want em.
01-10-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
Yeah I guess i want it to be absolutely mindless. I love my circle cutters. When i got home, I put the holes in the double 3/4" (1.5") mdf in 5 minutes.
I know you're good w/ the flush trim bit, but is it ever not big enough of a cutout for the speaker?
I couldn't imagine trying to, for instance, countersink these ribbons without my circle cutter....
But those test leads...I want em.
I know you're good w/ the flush trim bit, but is it ever not big enough of a cutout for the speaker?
I couldn't imagine trying to, for instance, countersink these ribbons without my circle cutter....
But those test leads...I want em.
Those leads are only about $30-40...
01-10-2006, 03:23 PM
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Hey Steve, are those aurum(spelling?) cantus ribbons?
I'm used to using my friends Fluke (I love Fluke) but I recently got this radioshack and it works really accept it's not quite as accurate (of course).
I also think RCA are mostly overrated. I just like using nice ones because they look nice. I think their main purpose is to block noise with shielding. I did notice my system had a slight amount of noise before I installed the knukonceptz and after I installed them I had ZERO noise. Before, I also had a bunch (active 4-way) of random crappy rca's in my car. As long as decent rca's I think you'll be fine, just get the ones thar look good.
I'm used to using my friends Fluke (I love Fluke) but I recently got this radioshack and it works really accept it's not quite as accurate (of course).
I also think RCA are mostly overrated. I just like using nice ones because they look nice. I think their main purpose is to block noise with shielding. I did notice my system had a slight amount of noise before I installed the knukonceptz and after I installed them I had ZERO noise. Before, I also had a bunch (active 4-way) of random crappy rca's in my car. As long as decent rca's I think you'll be fine, just get the ones thar look good.
01-10-2006, 03:37 PM
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Actually those are Fountek Neo 3's. I later went 3 way front with AC ribbons (just like playing w/ different stuff)....that one looked something like this.....
You do have a router, too, right? Wanna make sure you know the attachments are router attachments. I miss my old table saw though. Wanna get a decent one eventually, but first I wanna get air.
I'm lucky that I live like 5 minutes from a woodcraft, so all that stuff is right here....
You do have a router, too, right? Wanna make sure you know the attachments are router attachments. I miss my old table saw though. Wanna get a decent one eventually, but first I wanna get air.
I'm lucky that I live like 5 minutes from a woodcraft, so all that stuff is right here....
01-10-2006, 03:52 PM
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Yes I have a router. I had air when I lived in nm but now I don't and I need it badly. Don, what is a good QUIET compressor??
Steve, I thought you were doing ID horns? I'm always changing my setup as well, it's fun to experiment.
It seems like I'm always jacking someone else's thread and I need to stop. Sorry for jacking this one (althogh I feel that the rca questions were answered)
Steve, I thought you were doing ID horns? I'm always changing my setup as well, it's fun to experiment.
It seems like I'm always jacking someone else's thread and I need to stop. Sorry for jacking this one (althogh I feel that the rca questions were answered)
01-10-2006, 03:54 PM
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My friend in NM has a fluke and he also has a set of eks kables so he said he'll meter them tonight.
Steve, how would you say those ribbons compare to Don's dynaudio setup? I have a set of neoplanars that I wanted to put in my car but they're too big.
Steve, how would you say those ribbons compare to Don's dynaudio setup? I have a set of neoplanars that I wanted to put in my car but they're too big.
01-10-2006, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
since they all do the same, and cost is not an issue...why not just go with the ones that aesthetically would suit your equipment/install best?
01-10-2006, 05:04 PM
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Yeah I am switching to ID horns. Those were just my past few systems
I don't know if it's fair to compare speakers (ribbon tweeters in this case) to a speaker setup (don's 3 ways). I do really like the Dyn 100 (or is it 110)tweet a lot. I also don't think Don's setup was close to optimally tuned (or having HU probs or whatever, or not tuned the way I like it...), so again, not a fair comparison.
Just listening to someones system it can be hard to jusge speakers, cause tuning has so much to do with it.
Guess I'd say the ribbons were more "sparkley" sounding then the dyn (for better or worst) as I have heard the dyn tweet in don's and other systems. I think the Dyn tweet is pretty nice n lively for a soft domer. Sometimes the ribbons sounded so "pretty" it was pretty in an inaccurate way. I didn't like it how the ribbons just hadda stare you in the face. Everyones attention was always drawn down to them, and the soundstage lowered. Prolly shoulda put some grille cloth over them, but again, they're big and have to be pointing towards listeners, still drawing attention there.
My horn setup is becoming a pain in the butt now, as my kick panels are preventing me from getting the horns as far over as I'd like. A narrow soundstage is one prob. associated w/ horns in the car, and I fear that my car is really going to suffer from that, cause I can't get them over to the absolute side of the car without putting them through my midranges. I think i'll be looking at a soundstage not even hitting the a pillars the way things are looking now
I don't know if it's fair to compare speakers (ribbon tweeters in this case) to a speaker setup (don's 3 ways). I do really like the Dyn 100 (or is it 110)tweet a lot. I also don't think Don's setup was close to optimally tuned (or having HU probs or whatever, or not tuned the way I like it...), so again, not a fair comparison.
Just listening to someones system it can be hard to jusge speakers, cause tuning has so much to do with it.
Guess I'd say the ribbons were more "sparkley" sounding then the dyn (for better or worst) as I have heard the dyn tweet in don's and other systems. I think the Dyn tweet is pretty nice n lively for a soft domer. Sometimes the ribbons sounded so "pretty" it was pretty in an inaccurate way. I didn't like it how the ribbons just hadda stare you in the face. Everyones attention was always drawn down to them, and the soundstage lowered. Prolly shoulda put some grille cloth over them, but again, they're big and have to be pointing towards listeners, still drawing attention there.
My horn setup is becoming a pain in the butt now, as my kick panels are preventing me from getting the horns as far over as I'd like. A narrow soundstage is one prob. associated w/ horns in the car, and I fear that my car is really going to suffer from that, cause I can't get them over to the absolute side of the car without putting them through my midranges. I think i'll be looking at a soundstage not even hitting the a pillars the way things are looking now
01-10-2006, 05:24 PM
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nah dont trip. Ive pretty much gotten my answer. I was really curious as to the noise rejection properties of each as the site just says "superior" for every cable. SO in going with a complete matching higher quality than im running i just wanted to make sure i wasnt getting something problematic.
as for the ribbons, I still cant believe their THAT damn big.
as for the ribbons, I still cant believe their THAT damn big.
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