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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by TILLEYS99

Iron sleeves what do you think the pistons are riding on the aluminum?
Amen, JDM4LIFE must be thinking of that special aluminum from the planet Krypton!
Old Apr 1, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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lol, no i don't. but iron has better heat characteristics than aluminum does. hence why the 300zx tt used the vg30dett, iron block. and it could handle plenty of boost stock. granted it had lower compression as well, but still.. i'm not saying it's an absolute requirement, but it's not definitely a bad idea either.
Old Apr 1, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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I don't think you understand what they're saying. The Maxima already has iron sleeves from the factory.

Originally posted by JDM4LIFE
lol, no i don't. but iron has better heat characteristics than aluminum does. hence why the 300zx tt used the vg30dett, iron block. and it could handle plenty of boost stock. granted it had lower compression as well, but still.. i'm not saying it's an absolute requirement, but it's not definitely a bad idea either.
Old Apr 1, 2002 | 09:18 PM
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no @H!t, eh? considering i've never had it apart, i didn't know any better. not to mention the mechanic i talk to at the dealership told me that was the reason not to supercharge the engine, or at least much, is the all aluminum block... dealerships...... ugh. now i look like an idiot, oh well. in that case, boost away!!! (with lower compression of course )
Old Apr 1, 2002 | 11:46 PM
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I occasionally get boost spikes when I push hard. it can boost to upto 9-10 psi. I think this is normal, is this normal boost creep or a little more than I should expect? I have a boost controller now, I need to set it, should that help?

I have not been able to catch the condition under which this happens ... I am too busy racing ! I think it happens when I drop a gear or two, but I am not sure. Anyway, I have wired in a warning buzzer when overboost happens so I can catch it more easily, the flashing LED just doesn't do it!

As far as iron sleeves go, I was wondering if thicker sleeves would help?

Nigel
Old Apr 2, 2002 | 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by turbo97SE
I occasionally get boost spikes when I push hard. it can boost to upto 9-10 psi. I think this is normal, is this normal boost creep or a little more than I should expect? I have a boost controller now, I need to set it, should that help?

I have not been able to catch the condition under which this happens ... I am too busy racing ! I think it happens when I drop a gear or two, but I am not sure. Anyway, I have wired in a warning buzzer when overboost happens so I can catch it more easily, the flashing LED just doesn't do it!

As far as iron sleeves go, I was wondering if thicker sleeves would help?

Nigel
Hey Nigel the link to the Turbo Maxima Kit isn't working on your shops web site. I tried to check it out but nothing ever came up. Someone I know found it on the net and sent me the link I was like oh yea I know him. Anywho post some kills!! Almost got mine started but the timing was all meesed up. I think we got it figured so we'll try again.
Old Apr 2, 2002 | 07:18 AM
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Hey Alex, if i do go turbo i wonder how many people are going to own this cattman ypipe. lol
Old Apr 2, 2002 | 07:21 AM
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Hey Alex, if i do go turbo i wonder how many people are going to own this cattman ypipe. lol
Hehehe Maybe one day it'll get used for more than a month or two per owner.
Old Apr 2, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Hey Nigel the link to the Turbo Maxima Kit isn't working on your shops web site. I tried to check it out but nothing ever came up. Someone I know found it on the net and sent me the link I was like oh yea I know him. Anywho post some kills!! Almost got mine started but the timing was all meesed up. I think we got it figured so we'll try again.
Yeah I know! They were waiting for pics from me. I tried to email them but they did not receive them. Any pics they post will be the same ones I have posted on the org.

Good to hear you're getting close! I got email from you the other day ... seemed kind a weird cos you were replying to someone else. Didn't understand what was going on.

My car is still not fully tuned yet. I am running about 5 psi or so. I installed a boost controller and all the warning gauges. If it overboosts I can hear a beep and get off the throttle. It's kind of weird that it does that, don't really know why yet. I am hoping the boost controller will fix that. Almost blew up the engine the other day cos I had the boost controller in the wrong mode. Got up to 10 psi!! It would have gone higher too if I hadn't backed off. My boost gauge saved my butt, definitely get an electronic warning gauge! $200 is worth it, believe me! As far as road kills, I have posted one so far against an Acura TL-S. BOOST IS FUN!
Old Apr 2, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by turbo97SE


Yeah I know! They were waiting for pics from me. I tried to email them but they did not receive them. Any pics they post will be the same ones I have posted on the org.

Good to hear you're getting close! I got email from you the other day ... seemed kind a weird cos you were replying to someone else. Didn't understand what was going on.

My car is still not fully tuned yet. I am running about 5 psi or so. I installed a boost controller and all the warning gauges. If it overboosts I can hear a beep and get off the throttle. It's kind of weird that it does that, don't really know why yet. I am hoping the boost controller will fix that. Almost blew up the engine the other day cos I had the boost controller in the wrong mode. Got up to 10 psi!! It would have gone higher too if I hadn't backed off. My boost gauge saved my butt, definitely get an electronic warning gauge! $200 is worth it, believe me! As far as road kills, I have posted one so far against an Acura TL-S. BOOST IS FUN!

Man it must have felt fast as hell @10 psi!!! Sounds like the warning indicator is a must I'll look into it, Thanks.
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 02:58 AM
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A couple words for Nigel, UncleMax and Turbo95Max

First off I have to commend you all for being among a handful of people that actually decided to undertake such a task of doing a custom turbo kits. You could have kept this secret and told others to figure it out on their own, but you shared your knowledge. Instead of being appreciative some people were demanding and whining about the costs or lack of installation instructions.

A turbo kit for $2600, hell I wish that I could have waited longer instead of buying my SC kit. I think that any owner in their right mind who would consider undertaking doing a custom project would not skimp out and make a crappy kit for their daily driven cars to save on money or time. You all have done well with your cars. Your kit seems very reasonable and I would like to get one, but I just have to pay off some college debts, convert to LSD, sell the SC, etc... . There is a ton of interest to get you project into the hands of the masses and we need time to get our finances in order.

For those of you that are confused about differences b/t turbos and superchargers lets see if I can explain it easily in a nutshell. Turbos are so much more efficient than superchargers because there is no horsepower lost to make boost. Superchargers use gear drives off of the crankshaft and take power to make power. Turbos use the power of your exhaust gases, so your driving agent to make power comes freely and at no loss of power to make power. Add on an intercooler and bigger exhaust piping and WOOHOO!

I just wanted to personally say thank you to you, UncleMax and turbo95Max for trying this out and making a viable alternative to Stillens Supercharger kit. Good job and way to go you guys!
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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Re: A couple words for Nigel, UncleMax and Turbo95Max

Originally posted by jgadlage
First off I have to commend you all for being among a handful of people that actually decided to undertake such a task of doing a custom turbo kits. You could have kept this secret and told others to figure it out on their own, but you shared your knowledge. Instead of being appreciative some people were demanding and whining about the costs or lack of installation instructions.

A turbo kit for $2600, hell I wish that I could have waited longer instead of buying my SC kit. I think that any owner in their right mind who would consider undertaking doing a custom project would not skimp out and make a crappy kit for their daily driven cars to save on money or time. You all have done well with your cars. Your kit seems very reasonable and I would like to get one, but I just have to pay off some college debts, convert to LSD, sell the SC, etc... . There is a ton of interest to get you project into the hands of the masses and we need time to get our finances in order.

For those of you that are confused about differences b/t turbos and superchargers lets see if I can explain it easily in a nutshell. Turbos are so much more efficient than superchargers because there is no horsepower lost to make boost. Superchargers use gear drives off of the crankshaft and take power to make power. Turbos use the power of your exhaust gases, so your driving agent to make power comes freely and at no loss of power to make power. Add on an intercooler and bigger exhaust piping and WOOHOO!

I just wanted to personally say thank you to you, UncleMax and turbo95Max for trying this out and making a viable alternative to Stillens Supercharger kit. Good job and way to go you guys!

Thanks Dude, Now if I can only convince my wife to feel the same.
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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Re: Re: A couple words for Nigel, UncleMax and Turbo95Max

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Thanks Dude, Now if I can only convince my wife to feel the same.
tell me about it! Same problem here but at least Im not married.
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 07:49 AM
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New Dynos at 5.5 psi and 9.3 psi

Check this out guys:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....3&pagenumber=2
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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How are the transmissions holding out?

I think I heard that the 5-speeds just have clutch slippage or where there other problems? Anything wrong with the AT's handling this power? Any modifications need to be done besides a modified VB, tranny cooler, and TC? Think that a complete rebuild needs to be done on the AT to handle all that power?
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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Re: How are the transmissions holding out?

Originally posted by jgadlage
I think I heard that the 5-speeds just have clutch slippage or where there other problems? Anything wrong with the AT's handling this power? Any modifications need to be done besides a modified VB, tranny cooler, and TC? Think that a complete rebuild needs to be done on the AT to handle all that power?
The only mod you need is a tranny swap to 5 sp and better clutch.
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 08:33 AM
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Re: Re: How are the transmissions holding out?

Smarta$$

I know that a tranmission swap would be the only way that you could bolt on a turbo at this point. The thing is that provisions are being made so that there can be a turbo on an AT. When that day does come my questions are these:

*Would a AT transmission with LSD from a Canadian spec I30 be able to handle that kind of power or would the transmission internals have to be done also?

*Would the LSD transmission for AT's that Shadow is working on be able to handle this much power?

*If it can not handle the power, what else needs to be strengthened?

*Does the LSD transmission just make both wheels have more grip or are the internals improved to handle higher hp as well?

I know that it would probably be cheaper to do the 5-speed conversion, but is there a clutch out there that can handle this kind of power and still remain streetable?
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 08:51 AM
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Re: Re: How are the transmissions holding out?

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The only mod you need is a tranny swap to 5 sp and better clutch.
Woah!! Thats awsome Nigel. Someone said there was a 400 hp Max whos got that?
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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Re: Re: Re: How are the transmissions holding out?

I'm only working on the differential. The diff will take this kind of power. But you're going to need to do some extreme work on the auto tranny to do it.

Originally posted by jgadlage
Smarta$$

I know that a tranmission swap would be the only way that you could bolt on a turbo at this point. The thing is that provisions are being made so that there can be a turbo on an AT. When that day does come my questions are these:

*Would a AT transmission with LSD from a Canadian spec I30 be able to handle that kind of power or would the transmission internals have to be done also?

*Would the LSD transmission for AT's that Shadow is working on be able to handle this much power?

*If it can not handle the power, what else needs to be strengthened?

*Does the LSD transmission just make both wheels have more grip or are the internals improved to handle higher hp as well?

I know that it would probably be cheaper to do the 5-speed conversion, but is there a clutch out there that can handle this kind of power and still remain streetable?
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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im guessing he is gonna be pretty fast....
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 09:28 AM
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Re: Re: Re: How are the transmissions holding out?

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Woah!! Thats awsome Nigel. Someone said there was a 400 hp Max whos got that?
Matthel just got his engine built. He's got about 420 or more.

Nigel
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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Few questions Nigel

1. I see that the front bumper support beam had to be cut to fit the intercooler. Is your intercooler that much larger than Unclemax's intercooler? He was able to fit his right under the support beam.

2. Did you have to cut any more metal to get the pipings from the intercooler to the engine bay? Unclemax's pipings went through the fender part of the car which require relocating the windshield fluid tank. Yours seems to go under where the lower support beam for the radiator is. Wouldn't the piping more prone to damage from bottoming out or careless parking job.
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Re: Few questions Nigel

Please see my comments:


Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
1. I see that the front bumper support beam had to be cut to fit the intercooler. Is your intercooler that much larger than Unclemax's intercooler? He was able to fit his right under the support beam.

>> Alex's looks smaller but I don't KNOW that for sure. If it fits underneath AND does not go below the spoiler line, then it MUST be smaller.


2. Did you have to cut any more metal to get the pipings from the intercooler to the engine bay? Unclemax's pipings went through the fender part of the car which require relocating the windshield fluid tank. Yours seems to go under where the lower support beam for the radiator is. Wouldn't the piping more prone to damage from bottoming out or careless parking job.
>> Don't know if you saw the Group deals page 3, there are pretty clear pics there about how the piping is routed. We had to cut two 3 inch holes to accommodate the I/C

As far as damage goes it is no worse than Alex's setup. Not sure about Matthel's. The piping itself is not so prone to damage as much as the intercooler. You just have to be careful.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How are the transmissions holding out?

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Matthel just got his engine built. He's got about 420 or more.

Nigel
Hmm I thought there was someone like in Chicago or Newyork that had one a while back.

Anyone hear if Matthel dynoed afterall?
Old Apr 5, 2002 | 01:13 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How are the transmissions holding out?

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Hmm I thought there was someone like in Chicago or Newyork that had one a while back.

Anyone hear if Matthel dynoed afterall?
Dude

Just looked at your set up! Looks really trick! Nice! A lot of chrome! I like chrome but it's too much work for me to keep clean. I am lazy!
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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these work on autos?
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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these work on autos?
Asked and answered. Use the SEARCH!!

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Old Apr 15, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by 1/3There2/3ToGo


Asked and answered. Use the SEARCH!!

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i searched... he said is was working on it...
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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i searched... he said is was working on it...
And now you have your answer. He is working on it. None of us CO guys have had the time to let the shop lurk around our cars long enough to get an idea of if it will work easily or if it will be a pain yet. So...he is working on it

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And now you have your answer. He is working on it. None of us CO guys have had the time to let the shop lurk around our cars long enough to get an idea of if it will work easily or if it will be a pain yet. So...he is working on it

Kirk
ah ic... will the price be the same or lower?
and for the installation, you think a shop can do it?
not you guys but here in VA...
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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ah ic... will the price be the same or lower?
and for the installation, you think a shop can do it?
not you guys but here in VA...
Price - should be about the same, *might* be a little more because they will have to make a new jig for it.

Any shop that knows their stuff should be able to do it. I mean, its like a puzzle, only fits together one way.

Kirk
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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Price - should be about the same, *might* be a little more because they will have to make a new jig for it.

Any shop that knows their stuff should be able to do it. I mean, its like a puzzle, only fits together one way.

Kirk
thanks for helping me out!
time to collect money!


um... that link for his turbo vid didn't work.
new link?
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by Sexima


thanks for helping me out!
time to collect money!


um... that link for his turbo vid didn't work.
new link?
No prob.

To what link do you refer?
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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No prob.

To what link do you refer?
turbo max video with his turbo on...
Old Apr 15, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Sexima

turbo max video with his turbo on...
Yeah...there were problems finding someone to host it....its down for now but maybe gtr_rider can email it to you if you PM him.

Kirk
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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We may buy a few of these but we don't know who to call....
Old Apr 20, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by MaxximumTuning
We may buy a few of these but we don't know who to call....
You can email me and I will reply and give you my number

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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sexima
these work on autos?
We will be finding out very soon, I will be taking my auto max down to get it measured to see if it will work, but nigel and i are tryn to work out a date that best works for both of us. But don't worry we will find out.
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Old Apr 20, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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We will be finding out very soon, I will be taking my auto max down to get it measured to see if it will work, but nigel and i are tryn to work out a date that best works for both of us. But don't worry we will find out.
Ryan
aite man
thanks ^^
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aite man
thanks ^^
I am 90% sure we will figure this out. I already have two ideas. The only issue is finding a guinea pig to try this out on!



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