http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/sporcomallef.html

is this one good for the max? I dont know if it is a wet kit or a dry kit.
Is it all right (like the add says) to use the system entierly stock!?
I'm thinking like a 50 Shot.
How do I program it to shoot while it is in the right gear that I want?
What do you guys have in your maxima's?

Please, please, please, be detailed

 

Uhhh... might want to remove that sig before you do anything else..... just helping you out, cause someone will get mad if they see it.

 

NX only makes wet nitrous systems. Yes you can use it bone stock, but I'd change a few things especially the clutch before spraying. Better change that pic before phenryiv and the sig 5-0 do it for you.

 

I have that kit, you need copper spark plugs bare minimum

 

I'd recommend atleast getting a y-pipe. I'm sure you don't want to damage any of your catylatic convertors. Yes nitrous will damage these parts!!!

Note the ad said no engine modifications needed. Didn't say exhaust mod's not needed?

 

how can u make the jump to a 100 shot with that? (Looking at buying the kit too) I know what other mods I need to do to accomodate the 100 shot on my maxima.

 

<shakes head> Are you kidding me? Harms your catalytic converter? Not only do you obviously have no idea what your talking about you can't spell either. Adding nitrous makes your car run more HP, that is it. If you added any other type of power adder it will not harm your cat, neither does nitrous. Never mind the fact that nitrous is used so infrequently that even it you had crazy high EGT that it will still not do anything to the cat (considering it doesn't even operate until it reaches 900deg) and how far down stream your cat is.

Please read this thread: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....8&page=1&pp=30

You really need to do some research before you post stuff like this. Unless you have first hand technical knowledge about a particular subject (which you obviously don’t) do not post things like this.

Nitrous does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING (zippo zero nada zilch) to hurt your catalytic converter or any other part of your exhaust system. If proper air fuel is retained (factory jetting form all companies does this more or less) your stock exhaust system will have absolutely no problem.

 

Obviously, you need to stick to working on your Eagle Talon. I don't understand why an Eagle owner would be part of the Maxima association anyway? <shakes head> Anyone who would purchase an Eagle product needs to be shot in the first place. What you don't realize is how close the pre-cat's are to the exhaust manifolds on a Maxima. Any yes the extra exhaust tempatures will cuase the pre-cat's to malfunction. Something Eagle owners should try to learn is that real performance enthusiast not just look at how much horsepower a engine makes, but how reliable it is. Bye the way, tell your daddy Jime I said hi & if he needs any help, I'm more then happy to lend a hand!!!!!!

 

Oh ya, mister spelling bee winner it's (FROM, not FORM) Talk about calling the kettle black. I might spell something wrong every now & then, but atleast I use a word that fit's the sentence! Hey, it's all good though I can't hate on you I know how hard it was for us American's to train you Canadiens. We didn't expect you guy's to pick up everything! By the way, the next time we need to defend our continent well make sure to let you know when it's safe to come out!!!

 

One last thing I wanted to ask... What's the traffic situation like up there, you guy's still on horse back?

 

You are a moron. He knows about maximas more than you do. So does Jime. It'll be a cold day in hel! before I ever take your advice.

 

I will not even bother touching this because we all know the Talon/Eclipse is a great tuner car and how potent the 4G63 is. You won't find much support for a comment like that here on Maxima.org either my friend.

I realize it has pre-cats, what you did was assume I didn't. Want to take a guess who hot your EGT is at the cat while spraying? I'll bet you don't have an EGT and couldn't even tell me what it is. Your EGT will climb about 100deg or less when your on nitrous. This 100 deg increase will not harm your catalytic converter at all. Your pre-cat is SO FAR DOWN STREAM meaning it's 5-6 from the head that even IF your EGT was high from spraying, which it is NOT, it will not bother it. Your cat does not even start to function until 900deg which is why they put them so close so they warm up faster for emissions reason. They work best when really hot, so nitrous is not going to bother them.

Hahhaah, thats pretty funny. Would you like me to post some of the stupid emails you sent him asking about nitrous? Your joking right? You put a chip on your Jetta with spray and melted a piston. Maybe if you had done some research you would know you couldn't do that because of advance. This is clearly a rookie mistake. You are a nitrous newbie and have no idea what your talking about. Your saying nitrous harms catalytic converters and it does not, and its proven that it doesn't. That right there says you don't know what your talking about. You think nitrous hurts a cat and your offering to help us? Please. I have forgotten more about nitrous then you will even know. When you wnat to know what a pass faster than 14 seconds feels like PM me and I'll tell you how to make your Maxima fast.

Kn00b..

 

Here are just a couple of Q&A's from nitrous sites I frequent to get info.


"Q. Does nitrous increase cylinder temperatures and combustion chamber pressure?

A. No, cylinder temperatures should stay the same when the correct nitrous air/fuel ratio is used. Yes, increased cylinder pressure equals increased horsepower."

"Q: Will the use of nitrous oxide affect the catalytic converter?

A: No. The increase in oxygen present in the exhaust may actually increase the efficiency of the converter. Since the use of nitrous is normally limited to 10-20 seconds of continuous use, there usually are no appreciable effects. Temperatures are typically well within acceptable standards."

This is a classic example of MISINFORMATION and Maximus101 is the main reason I made the post about it in the General Forum.

I could quote a few more examples of misinformation but that would just take up more space and Maximus101 has taken up too much already.

 

I agree with Jime. Too much misinformation and hearsay. If you don't have first hand experience, please refrain from giving advice. If you are guessing, please note that in your post. Maximus101....I do not tolerate rude and derogatory attacks. Either you stick with the automotive topics or you will be BAN from this site. Consider this as your last warning.

 

FINALLY, Thank you both 1MAX2NV and Jime. About time someone stopped this, I know already to trust certain people on this site, but some newer people might not, thats what I was worried about, especially when dealing with nitrous. You guys should start a list of people not to listen to.

 

DSMJim, Jime, Blue C & 1MAX2NV;

So basically what your telling me is that the stock Y-pipe doesn't restrict exhaust gas flow? If it's so safe to use nitrous with your stock Y-pipe then why aren't any of you doing it. Have you ever heard of this little thing called load? Maybe you will realize that keeping the pre-cat's on the car while using nitrous will increase the load on the engine. Maybe it's just me, but did any of you see the dyno results for the Y-pipe replacement. If it's not super restrictive then why would you gain between 10 & 20 additional HP from this mod... I'll tell you what! Jime, go & put your stock Y-pipe back on & squeeze that 150hp shot a few times. I guarentee you will melt the inside of those cat's.

This is for 1MAX2NV......
So basically your knowledge is just as limited as all the other "WISEMEN" on this site. Maybe you should research the threads I've been in and the praise I get from some of the other org. member's that have been here longer then Jime, DSMJim, BlueC here is just 1 example for you to ponder http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....6&goto=newpost

So do whatcha gotta do, because I don't think it's that hard to join this Maxima.org group anyhow. So go on and waste your time & ban me because your onboard the Canadien express. Just keep in mind that when I got information from Jime telling me that the computer won't compesate for additional fuel, that didn't mean I had to take the Misinformation is rampent road. Obviously, nobody on the org. likes compitition & some of the member's envy the praise the used to get from other orger's. Maybe the jelousy took over & that person decided to get definsive, because they like to be the one who solves all the questions? That's just my guess. So 1MAX2NV go ahead and ban me & I'll be logged on tomorrow with a different screen name. Oh ya, did I mention that I have three different screen names on here to contradict people who think they know all the answers???

 

I think I know why Jime's feeling's got hurt & he had to start the misinformation is rampent thread? Would it have anything to do with the thread I post about "Dry vrs. Wet airflow" Maybe he was upset when for all this time he had been telling everyone how safe NX kit's are & then I come back & post information directly from the person who design's NX kit's Mike Wood & even he say's that using a wet kit on a dry manifold engine is dangerous & not 100% safe. If you want Jime I can post more info under the Nitrous threads where he goe's on to say the in the future all kit's will be EFI dry system's because of there safety & reliability. Would you like me to do that? How bout I start a thread saying Jime thinks he know's everything there is to know about nitrous here's why & for each of your answer's & place a theory underneath it that contradict's what you just said? Would you appriciate that?

 

PLEASE STOP. NO IT WILL NOT BURN UP CATS You truly are an idiot and need to read a book or something. Seriously just disappear because your doing nothing but making a fool of yourself. EGT will not rise with a 150hp shot anymore than it will with a 50hp shot. EGT is a product of A/F ratio and Timing. They are constant regardless of how much nitrous you inject so the size of the shot has nothing to do with it. The Timing and A/F ratio is not changed based on the size of your shot. If they don't change neither does EGT so the size of the shot will not change the heat coming out of the engine. I think you think that a larger shot makes more heat out of your engine. This is not true and this is not how engines work.

Nobody said anything about it not working with a stock Y-pipe or pre-cats. It will and changing to a larger performance unit will make more HP. People change them for the extra HP gain not because stock equipment wont work. It will, just that more HP is gained with performance pieces.

Dude, seriously just shut the hell up. You don't know **** squat and really need to stop.


Your stock computer WILL NOT COMPENSATE FOR NITROUS!!!!! Your a idiot. Your saying that your computer will compensate for nitrous and it will not. Not one little bit at all, PERIOD END OF STORY.

When you got WOT (wide open throttle) your computer goes into OPEN LOOP mode. Look that up, it will help you to understand what I'm talking about since you have NO IDEA. Open loop is a mode in the computer with a pre-defined set of parameters. It runs an a map built into the computer for afr and timing. It ignores your sensors like O2 and IAT etc. READ: COMPETLY IGNORES THEM. So you can do whatever you want when your at WOT your computer runs on a map that is pre-programmed and WILL NOT CHANGE NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. The only time your afr is changed is when your at part throttle or closed loop mode. This is done for fuel economy reasons ONLY. Are you spraying only at part throttle? Because that is the only time O2 is taken into account and your AFR (air fuel ratio) is changed as a result of what the O2 sees.

The other thing, is lets say you computer could adjust (WHICH IT CANT) while your car at WOT. Normally aspirated your car is programmed for an AFR of around 13.2:1. With nitrous your AFR should be 11.5:1. Your car has no idea that nitrous is being shot into the engine and has absolutely no way of making the air fuel ratio this rich. Even if your AFR was corrected from the nitrous back to 13.2:1 when you were spraying this is still WAY TO LEAN for a nitrous powered car. What your saying is impossible and completely stupid. If you think your computer is doing that then your kidding yourself because it doesn’t. You can continue thinking that it does, but it does not. Don't even bother arguing with me here because I am right you are wrong. PERIOD. The only reason you have not yet blew your car is because the motor is strong and luck.

First off take your head out of your ***. Your hardly competition to anybody here with your lack of any type of automotive knowledge (never mind performance) and your 14 second car. You probably will be banned shortly I'm sure and good riedens. Your a drag on the .ORG and know less than a 1/10 of what half the members on here do. You have these diluted views on how cars work and your way off in left field.

N2O burns up cats, hahahaahhahhaha..
Computer compensates automatically for n2o, hahhahahhahhah.

Dude your a joke and the things that come out of your mouth are pretty funny.. Do us a favor and disappear.

 

^^^^ Hes actually got something to back up his info. What do you have Maximus??

 

Are you delusional

 

I'm going to repond to Maximus101 and this thread will get locked.

First, I just find your misinformation annoying. Nothing more and nothing less. It has nothing to do with other members or "WISEMEN" of this forum. What I really have a problem with is when you start using personal attacks and derogatory towards Canadians.

Second, this forum is alittle more advance than just ban you by your screen name. We can start with screen name, then move on to IP addresses...then your ISP.

Everyone please chill with the name callings.