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Old 03-26-2007 | 09:25 PM
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Here's a link to the latest Subaru thread with current updates on the development, just for our information:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...php?p=17339325
Old 03-30-2007 | 09:22 AM
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well, i can tell what happend to the extenders... (and you all should have guessed this too). The design of maxima's balljoints is so different (from what they have for subarus) that the same idea cannot be applied... so as soon as they figuered it out, they quit.
Old 03-30-2007 | 09:56 AM
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Pussies...
Old 06-08-2007 | 04:22 PM
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Resurrection of old thread....

I got a hold of some goodies and once they arrive I will give you; bump-steering-family-car-driver's, a review and provide you with a contact # where to buy these

Might set up a group deal if this works.
Old 06-08-2007 | 04:52 PM
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about damn time.
Old 06-08-2007 | 04:59 PM
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Sweet news! Keep us posted.
Old 06-08-2007 | 05:28 PM
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Old 06-08-2007 | 05:46 PM
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Woot! Very interested in seeing these results. I despise my camber curve...
Old 06-08-2007 | 06:23 PM
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maybe I am just not paying attention to it, but bump steer has never seemed to me to be a huge problem...but I welcome new components and options...so bring it on...
Old 06-08-2007 | 09:40 PM
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You probably do not notice it because you drive on somewhat smooth roads... to me bumpstop is VERY noticable around tight corners where I can feel the steering wheel jerking in the opposite way around the corner when the suspension compresses.

I should tease you guys with some pictures atleast....



Stock the tie rod is mounted ABOVE the knuckle and this one allows you to mount it above OR below
Old 06-09-2007 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
to me bump steer is VERY noticable around tight corners
Fixed....
Old 06-09-2007 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I should tease you guys with some pictures atleast....

let's see the rest of it before I sign over my soul.
Old 06-09-2007 | 07:58 AM
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a bump steer kit alone wont fix much.
Old 06-09-2007 | 08:04 AM
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Sure will..... ball joint relocation won't fix much, but actually make things worse. Tie rod relocation will fix most of it alone, with ball joint relocated lower - even with the tie rod, bump steer should be gone.
Old 06-09-2007 | 08:54 AM
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Balljoint relocation alone will fix the camber curve on compression/extension.

The toe curve on compression/extension, which is what determines the amount of bump steer, depends on the angle of the tie rod with respect to the LCA. The tie rod and LCA should be about parallel. That could be accomplished with tie rod relocation alone; as BlackBIRDVQ said, balljoint relocation alone would make this worse, so if balljoint relocation is done, so should tie rod relocation be.
Old 06-09-2007 | 09:36 AM
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I'm confused. Wasn't this thread originally about ball joint extension to alleviate positive camber gain on compression?? When did bump steer become the primary focus?
Old 06-09-2007 | 10:10 AM
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you got those here right? http://www.sr20forum.com/bolt-bars/1...ts-%24150.html

Also what did the thread pitch of the maxima tie rods end up being 14mm?
Old 06-09-2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
I'm confused. Wasn't this thread originally about ball joint extension to alleviate positive camber gain on compression?? When did bump steer become the primary focus?
I can't speak for everyone, but bump steer isn't my primary focus...

Yes, the thread was originally about balljoint extension. It's just that that has to be combined with tie rod relocation or it will make the bump steer problem worse.
Old 06-09-2007 | 01:27 PM
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Yeah, I thought the bumpsteer kit was just part of the balljoint reloc kit...
Old 06-09-2007 | 04:19 PM
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I don't really understand why everyone wants to relocate their ball joint.... you will see gains in terms of drivability on the STREET with a tie rod relocation. Most people here have big slams as far as lowering springs go... and this provokes even more bump steer.
Old 06-09-2007 | 04:46 PM
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I would imagine noticeable gains from ball joint extenders too...as the suspension compresses (e.g. in a turn, especially the more uneven the surface) you're losing negative camber without an extender, and thus you're losing traction.
Old 06-09-2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I don't really understand why everyone wants to relocate their ball joint.... you will see gains in terms of drivability on the STREET with a tie rod relocation. Most people here have big slams as far as lowering springs go... and this provokes even more bump steer.
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I would imagine noticeable gains from ball joint extenders too...as the suspension compresses (e.g. in a turn, especially the more uneven the surface) you're losing negative camber without an extender, and thus you're losing traction.
Old 06-09-2007 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I don't really understand why everyone wants to relocate their ball joint....
Please tell me you're joking.
Old 06-10-2007 | 08:56 AM
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But realistically speaking, most of the gains are to be had here with the tie rod relocation. The ball joint will be tougher to do.... but it can be done with off the shelf parts, just that the manufacturer is out of those ball joints right now......
Old 06-11-2007 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
You probably do not notice it because you drive on somewhat smooth roads... to me bumpstop is VERY noticable around tight corners where I can feel the steering wheel jerking in the opposite way around the corner when the suspension compresses.

I should tease you guys with some pictures atleast....



Stock the tie rod is mounted ABOVE the knuckle and this one allows you to mount it above OR below

welcome to 2 years ago..
http://blehmco.com/pics/car/suspension/DSCN0116.JPG
http://blehmco.com/pics/car/suspension/DSCN0115.JPG


.... waiting for ball joint options though..
Old 06-11-2007 | 10:02 AM
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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=434983

Old 06-11-2007 | 12:33 PM
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huh......................
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=bump+steer
Old 06-11-2007 | 12:46 PM
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See. I speak from experience. It won't solve your bump steer issues. made the problem a little bit better, but still need to fix the control arm/ball joint problem before you can really get any usefulness out of the lowered suspension.
Old 07-06-2007 | 09:37 PM
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So, pretty much, we've completely given up on this? =\
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