Possible Ball-Joint Extender
#81
Here's a link to the latest Subaru thread with current updates on the development, just for our information:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...php?p=17339325
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...php?p=17339325
#82
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well, i can tell what happend to the extenders... (and you all should have guessed this too). The design of maxima's balljoints is so different (from what they have for subarus) that the same idea cannot be applied... so as soon as they figuered it out, they quit.
#84
Resurrection of old thread....
I got a hold of some goodies and once they arrive I will give you; bump-steering-family-car-driver's, a review and provide you with a contact # where to buy these
Might set up a group deal if this works.
I got a hold of some goodies and once they arrive I will give you; bump-steering-family-car-driver's, a review and provide you with a contact # where to buy these
Might set up a group deal if this works.
#90
You probably do not notice it because you drive on somewhat smooth roads... to me bumpstop is VERY noticable around tight corners where I can feel the steering wheel jerking in the opposite way around the corner when the suspension compresses.
I should tease you guys with some pictures atleast....
Stock the tie rod is mounted ABOVE the knuckle and this one allows you to mount it above OR below
I should tease you guys with some pictures atleast....
Stock the tie rod is mounted ABOVE the knuckle and this one allows you to mount it above OR below
#94
Sure will..... ball joint relocation won't fix much, but actually make things worse. Tie rod relocation will fix most of it alone, with ball joint relocated lower - even with the tie rod, bump steer should be gone.
#95
Balljoint relocation alone will fix the camber curve on compression/extension.
The toe curve on compression/extension, which is what determines the amount of bump steer, depends on the angle of the tie rod with respect to the LCA. The tie rod and LCA should be about parallel. That could be accomplished with tie rod relocation alone; as BlackBIRDVQ said, balljoint relocation alone would make this worse, so if balljoint relocation is done, so should tie rod relocation be.
The toe curve on compression/extension, which is what determines the amount of bump steer, depends on the angle of the tie rod with respect to the LCA. The tie rod and LCA should be about parallel. That could be accomplished with tie rod relocation alone; as BlackBIRDVQ said, balljoint relocation alone would make this worse, so if balljoint relocation is done, so should tie rod relocation be.
#97
you got those here right? http://www.sr20forum.com/bolt-bars/1...ts-%24150.html
Also what did the thread pitch of the maxima tie rods end up being 14mm?
Also what did the thread pitch of the maxima tie rods end up being 14mm?
#98
Originally Posted by nismology
I'm confused. Wasn't this thread originally about ball joint extension to alleviate positive camber gain on compression?? When did bump steer become the primary focus?
Yes, the thread was originally about balljoint extension. It's just that that has to be combined with tie rod relocation or it will make the bump steer problem worse.
#100
I don't really understand why everyone wants to relocate their ball joint.... you will see gains in terms of drivability on the STREET with a tie rod relocation. Most people here have big slams as far as lowering springs go... and this provokes even more bump steer.
#101
I would imagine noticeable gains from ball joint extenders too...as the suspension compresses (e.g. in a turn, especially the more uneven the surface) you're losing negative camber without an extender, and thus you're losing traction.
#102
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
I don't really understand why everyone wants to relocate their ball joint.... you will see gains in terms of drivability on the STREET with a tie rod relocation. Most people here have big slams as far as lowering springs go... and this provokes even more bump steer.
Originally Posted by VQuick
I would imagine noticeable gains from ball joint extenders too...as the suspension compresses (e.g. in a turn, especially the more uneven the surface) you're losing negative camber without an extender, and thus you're losing traction.
#104
I am
But realistically speaking, most of the gains are to be had here with the tie rod relocation. The ball joint will be tougher to do.... but it can be done with off the shelf parts, just that the manufacturer is out of those ball joints right now......
But realistically speaking, most of the gains are to be had here with the tie rod relocation. The ball joint will be tougher to do.... but it can be done with off the shelf parts, just that the manufacturer is out of those ball joints right now......
#105
Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
You probably do not notice it because you drive on somewhat smooth roads... to me bumpstop is VERY noticable around tight corners where I can feel the steering wheel jerking in the opposite way around the corner when the suspension compresses.
I should tease you guys with some pictures atleast....
Stock the tie rod is mounted ABOVE the knuckle and this one allows you to mount it above OR below
I should tease you guys with some pictures atleast....
Stock the tie rod is mounted ABOVE the knuckle and this one allows you to mount it above OR below
welcome to 2 years ago..
http://blehmco.com/pics/car/suspension/DSCN0116.JPG
http://blehmco.com/pics/car/suspension/DSCN0115.JPG
.... waiting for ball joint options though..
#106
#107
huh......................
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=bump+steer
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=bump+steer
#108
See. I speak from experience. It won't solve your bump steer issues. made the problem a little bit better, but still need to fix the control arm/ball joint problem before you can really get any usefulness out of the lowered suspension.
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