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Old 05-15-2012 | 01:55 PM
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You sure you want to use big words like that? Not everyone is going to be able to follow the discussion.
You can go ahead and count out 4/5 of this thread.
Old 05-15-2012 | 01:56 PM
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So one of my brand new wheels has a lovely scratch on it
It can't...my wife didn't drive your car.

Old 05-15-2012 | 01:57 PM
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You sure you want to use big words like that? Not everyone is going to be able to follow the discussion.
TF was I smoking?

I must have been on the phone left my IQ switch on
Old 05-15-2012 | 01:58 PM
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It can't...my wife didn't drive your car.

Dude, I swurr tah GAWD you changed that city name
Old 05-15-2012 | 01:59 PM
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TF was I smoking?

I must have been on the phone left my IQ switch on
I think you're education is showing. You better nikka-ho up your posts right quick, before people get the wrong idea.
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It can't...my wife didn't drive your car.




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So, here's what I have so far with the cost I paid to give people an idea of how much this might cost them to do.

Dash harness - $95
Engine harness - $90
ECU/cluster/pedal/key/ignition - $300
Flywheel/clutch - $230
Getting the flywheel machined - between $50-$100

So around $800 give or take a few dollars. I didn't even count the fact that I will probably have to replace the plugs in the motor, valve covers and gaskets, fluids, etc.

Now camparing that to if i were to do another hybrid swap, the only thing I would really need is...

cam adapters - $125
PFTB - $150-$200

after that, its all gaskets and miscelanious items.

So will the extra cost justify the supposed extra power? Probably not. But we'll see.
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Dude, I swurr tah GAWD you changed that city name
No idea what the he!l you're talking about.
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:13 PM
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Tuner dont let that fool get you going with his slander we all know he drives a clown car anyway.and 99.5% here know how you take care of your things and respect them and wouldnt sell anything to anybody that was not proper.
Thanks for the kind words dude.
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:15 PM
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So will the extra cost justify the supposed extra power? Probably not. But we'll see.
It never, ever does. Never. But we do it anyway.






Because racecar.
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
I think you're education is showing. You better nikka-ho up your posts right quick, before people get the wrong idea.






Can't have any one here realizing that I'm only a Ghustler by day and Mechanical Engineer by night and that I do have what appears to be a bit of comprehension of the English language

That'd be the end of my hustluh cred

Originally Posted by essential1
So, here's what I have so far with the cost I paid to give people an idea of how much this might cost them to do.

Dash harness - $95
Engine harness - $90
ECU/cluster/pedal/key/ignition - $300
So that's all I need.... Really?

Shiiiiiiiid

Full swap is on cuz.



This is the one answer to why do anything....
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Because racecar.

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Old 05-15-2012 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
You sure you want to use big words like that? Not everyone is going to be able to follow the discussion.
Hey! I followed post perfect. It means it's more than astronomical, right? Out of orbit? I getz big words to. That was fencive.
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:33 PM
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...I'm ...a ...Mechanical Engineer by night and that I do have somewhat of a comprehension of the English language...
Those two don't necessarily go hand in hand.
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Same here, but everything isn't exorbitant, so I can piece it together week by week if need be, I'm more willing to full swap it just for the sake of changing motors will be easy as pie.

I have to get ahold of the local full swapper expert he'll walk me through on what i need.
Man, all of the full swappers give more than enough info for you to do the swap. Aaron and shift_max have both given me all the info I need and more to spare.

I still think that out of all the swaps, Shift_max has done it in the most user friendly way. It's pretty much gauranteed to start up when you do it that way. But you also need more of a complete parts list to do it this way. It's not one of those things that can be "walked through" exactly. But here's a rough parts list;

Dash harness
engine control harness
engine room harness
gas pedal
cluster
ecu
key
ignition cylinder with NATS

Swapping it this way will be a direct swap as far as starting and running the motor is concerned. You're just going to have to worry about interior wiring which is easy in my book.
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Originally Posted by nelledge
Those two don't necessarily go hand in hand.




But does (well did...) Pops know that

Silly software guys (You do software right pops?)
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
It never, ever does. Never. But we do it anyway.






Because racecar.
True...
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Originally Posted by aackshun






Can't have any one here realizing that I'm only a Ghustler by day and Mechanical Engineer by night and that I do have what appears to be a bit of comprehension of the English language

That'd be the end of my hustluh cred



So that's all I need.... Really?

Shiiiiiiiid

Full swap is on cuz.



This is the one answer to why do anything....
CAUGHT!! now now hand over your Ghustlin members card
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by aackshun


So that's all I need.... Really?

Shiiiiiiiid

Full swap is on cuz.

Originally Posted by essential1

Dash harness
engine control harness
engine room harness
gas pedal
cluster
ecu
key
ignition cylinder with NATS
This...

You can get by without the engine room harness though.
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by essential1
Dash harness
engine control harness
engine room harness
gas pedal
cluster
ecu
key
ignition cylinder with NATS

Swapping it this way will be a direct swap as far as starting and running the motor is concerned. You're just going to have to worry about interior wiring which is easy in my book.
Engine control harness???? What does that ish plug into? Is that the sub harness you're missing from your 02 one?

Ok, I'm thinking to get around the nats stuff is by using my old nats stuff... Dis possuhbul?

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Bish plz
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Engine control harness???? What does that ish plug into? Is that the sub harness you're missing from your 02 one?

Ok, I'm thinking to get around the nats stuff is by using my old nats stuff... Dis possuhbul?



Bish plz
Engine control harness is the one with that has the ECU plug on it too.

You can use your old nats equipment. But the problem is that the ECU has to be programmed to your key. Now if you have a consult, it wont be a problem. Then you have to worry about the cluster, then the OBD port, the e-gas, etc. After starting to strip the dash harness though... **** that. I'll swap the whole ish out.
Old 05-15-2012 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by essential1
Engine control harness is the one with that has the ECU plug on it too.

You can use your old nats equipment. But the problem is that the ECU has to be programmed to your key. Now if you have a consult, it wont be a problem. Then you have to worry about the cluster, then the OBD port, the e-gas, etc. After starting to strip the dash harness though... **** that. I'll swap the whole ish out.
The engine room harness is the one I'm concerned about though (I mispoke) What plugs are on that bad boy?

I have no problem with that, I have a dealer connec who hooks it up w/ da consult ish, if he's just programming keys, it's like $40 no big deal.

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I wonder when I'm able to afford a standalone I can go back to cable TB....
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ok now with all dis hur swapulating computatin do da will the BCM functions properly work ie doorlocks and such?
Old 05-15-2012 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by aackshun
Silly software guys (You do software right pops?)
Yes, son, that is my career. Has been for about 25 years now. Just a custom business applications programmer, to put a mundane label on it.

cjandura, on the other hand... he seems more of a hacker. A scary, skilled hacker with access to outrageously expensive software and hardware.
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ok now with all dis hur swapulating computatin do da will the BCM functions properly work ie doorlocks and such?
The 4th gen is ecu independent.

I would go as far to assume (making an *** outta u and me) that the 5th gen is the same way also w/ the BCM functions.

I would fear that the ECU would throw a code for the body stuff not being there, but I do not see it hindering the functions of my Keyfob and what nots, but le red devil is registered in KS, don't give a fck about codes

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Yes, son, that is my career. Has been for about 25 years now.
Thought you owned a Junk yard?

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sometimes i just wonder if Rochester is using us as a control group for his research for his book titled:The dumbification of America thru Technology
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Yes, son, that is my career. Has been for about 25 years now. Just a custom business applications programmer, to put a mundane label on it.

cjandura, on the other hand... he seems more of a hacker. A scary, skilled hacker with access to outrageously expensive software and hardware.
Such a dirty word:Goverment Contract Technology Guardian







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sometimes i just wonder if Rochester is using us as a control group for his research for his book titled:The dumbification of America thru Technology


OAN:

SUGAR SHANE!

What about the fans?

Power steering sensor?

A/C Pressure Switch?

Alternator+Compressor Subharness?
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Originally Posted by aackshun
The 4th gen is ecu independent.

I would go as far to assume (making an *** outta u and me) that the 5th gen is the same way also w/ the BCM functions.

I would fear that the ECU would throw a code for the body stuff not being there, but I do not see it hindering the functions of my Keyfob and what nots, but le red devil is registered in KS, don't give a fck about codes



Thought you owned a Junk yard?

so in theroy if you were to take a 4th gen and swap over a complete 5.5 harness and control boxes you would still need to utilize the 4th gen bcm to control those basic functions or could they be taped into on the 5.5 bcm?
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so in theroy if you were to take a 4th gen and swap over a complete 5.5 harness and control boxes you would still need to utilize the 4th gen bcm to control those basic functions or could they be taped into on the 5.5 bcm?
Now my mind is getting blown, I don't think that's necessary, I don't even think the 5.5 needs to see BCM to properly function in the ECU.

To my knowledge the ECU just needs..... Power, Engine feedback, Speedo feedback and nats signal.
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Now my mind is getting blown, I don't think that's necessary, I don't even think the 5.5 needs to see BCM to properly function in the ECU.

To my knowledge the ECU just needs..... Power, Engine feedback, Speedo feedback and nats signal.
um Security system includes NATS with functions being monitored by the BCM on the 5.5 ie door switches,hood switch,courtesy light,fuel pump cut off so if alarm senses trigger from bcm as in door open when armed it then activates immobilize

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i believe i have spotted the next eary rendition of Clashez and Shock before we broke their spirit.Name: Gil's03Max i believe we should troll and subdue this person.
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i believe i have spotted the next eary rendition of Clashez and Shock before we broke their spirit.Name: Gil's03Max i believe we should troll and subdue this person.
You can never break my spirit
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i believe i have spotted the next eary rendition of Clashez and Shock before we broke their spirit.Name: Gil's03Max i believe we should troll and subdue this person.
I've seen a couple posts from this fool today. He seems extremely dense.
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So one of my brand new wheels has a lovely scratch on it
Have you even posted up pictures of the car with the new wheels on it
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I've seen a couple posts from this fool today. He seems extremely dense.
yes he must be assimilated or mutilated either/or. pass the ice cream
Old 05-15-2012 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aackshun
The engine room harness is the one I'm concerned about though (I mispoke) What plugs are on that bad boy?

I have no problem with that, I have a dealer connec who hooks it up w/ da consult ish, if he's just programming keys, it's like $40 no big deal.
This harness is pretty much what supplies power to everything in the car.

Originally Posted by aackshun


I wonder when I'm able to afford a standalone I can go back to cable TB....
well, you can just get the haltech, from darren and get an engine harness. Plug those 2 up and you'll be fine.

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ok now with all dis hur swapulating computatin do da will the BCM functions properly work ie doorlocks and such?
the 5th gen BCM and pretty much all body functions are the same as the 5.5 gen. The 4th gen is a different story but the same basic wiring concepts still apply. Power, ground, and signal.

Originally Posted by aackshun
The 4th gen is ecu independent.

I would go as far to assume (making an *** outta u and me) that the 5th gen is the same way also w/ the BCM functions.

I would fear that the ECU would throw a code for the body stuff not being there, but I do not see it hindering the functions of my Keyfob and what nots, but le red devil is registered in KS, don't give a fck about codes
The ECU and BCM function indepentantly

Originally Posted by aackshun


OAN:

SUGAR SHANE!

What about the fans?

Power steering sensor?

A/C Pressure Switch?

Alternator+Compressor Subharness?
That's all intergrated into the engine room harness. That's why I say it would be a lot more easy/practical to swap all of this too. It will be plug and play and all will function like it's supposed to.

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so in theroy if you were to take a 4th gen and swap over a complete 5.5 harness and control boxes you would still need to utilize the 4th gen bcm to control those basic functions or could they be taped into on the 5.5 bcm?
You can keep your 4th gen bcm. A few connectors will have to be spliced in but it's a lot more simple than re wiring whats under the dash.

Originally Posted by aackshun
Now my mind is getting blown, I don't think that's necessary, I don't even think the 5.5 needs to see BCM to properly function in the ECU.

To my knowledge the ECU just needs..... Power, Engine feedback, Speedo feedback and nats signal.
Correct.
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Chrisman scratch on new wheels?WTF.Hope the tire jocky's life and soul was removed swiftly.


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Guys... Stop thinking and just order a complete version of the following;

engine room harness
dash harness
engine control harness
e-gas
ecu
cluster
key
ignition
motor.


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